Comments on: Where is Java’s CPAN? http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/ Your daily IT cuppa Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:05:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jack http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6031 Jack Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:23:30 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6031 @Alan - interesting article. If done properly, a Java CPAN allow the creation of a cut down Java engine with only the elements you want included? @Alan – interesting article. If done properly, a Java CPAN allow the creation of a cut down Java engine with only the elements you want included?

]]> By: The Open Sourcerer http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6028 The Open Sourcerer Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:27:04 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6028 I came across something today that I hadn't heard of before and "might" offer a solution of sorts. I read about it here:http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/05/osgi-and-the-rise-of-the-stackless-stack-just-in-time/ Al I came across something today that I hadn’t heard of before and “might” offer a solution of sorts.

I read about it here:http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/02/05/osgi-and-the-rise-of-the-stackless-stack-just-in-time/

Al

]]> By: Jack http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6027 Jack Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:02:22 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6027 @Alan - we've recently had some fun with this too. A XML-RPC lib we use to connect to our payment provider was also used by another lib in our e-commerce system. Unfortunately, their version was newer than the one we use so they clashed. Not too big a problem in the end, because we were able to upgrade our code to use the later version of the library. Seems odd that Java can't handle two different version of the same library being used at the same time. @Alan – we’ve recently had some fun with this too. A XML-RPC lib we use to connect to our payment provider was also used by another lib in our e-commerce system. Unfortunately, their version was newer than the one we use so they clashed. Not too big a problem in the end, because we were able to upgrade our code to use the later version of the library.

Seems odd that Java can’t handle two different version of the same library being used at the same time.

]]> By: The Open Sourcerer http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6025 The Open Sourcerer Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:47:44 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6025 Good point Jack, I have been playing around with Tomcat and some JSP applications recently. The performance of the "whole" solution is great, but when you start to run multiple apps inside one Tomcat instance, there are constant library management problems. The shared (or common) space for libs gets cluttered with multiple variants of the same thing, the apps' own lib file spaces end up containing multiple copies of the same version... It is all - seemingly down to the packager as to whether they decide to install their required libs in common or their own private space. It takes manual intervention to trawl and move stuff around to keep duplication down to a minimum. A solution to this sounds like a very worthwhile objective. Al Good point Jack,

I have been playing around with Tomcat and some JSP applications recently. The performance of the “whole” solution is great, but when you start to run multiple apps inside one Tomcat instance, there are constant library management problems. The shared (or common) space for libs gets cluttered with multiple variants of the same thing, the apps’ own lib file spaces end up containing multiple copies of the same version… It is all – seemingly down to the packager as to whether they decide to install their required libs in common or their own private space. It takes manual intervention to trawl and move stuff around to keep duplication down to a minimum.

A solution to this sounds like a very worthwhile objective.

Al

]]> By: Jack http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6016 Jack Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:29:37 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6016 @Tarus - Maven isn't really like PEAR or CPAN. Maven is a clever build tool much like Ant & makefiles as I understand it. PEAR and CPAN are closer to RPMs but for programming libraries. All of the dependencies are resolved for you much as RPM resolves package dependencies. Just strikes me as odd. Because you would have thought that Java would have been a perfect candidate for a really good library repository. There are plenty of high quality libraries out there for Java after all. @Tarus – Maven isn’t really like PEAR or CPAN. Maven is a clever build tool much like Ant & makefiles as I understand it.

PEAR and CPAN are closer to RPMs but for programming libraries. All of the dependencies are resolved for you much as RPM resolves package dependencies.

Just strikes me as odd. Because you would have thought that Java would have been a perfect candidate for a really good library repository. There are plenty of high quality libraries out there for Java after all.

]]> By: Tarus http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/comment-page-1/#comment-6015 Tarus Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:21:22 +0000 http://www.openxtra.co.uk/blog/where-is-javas-cpan/#comment-6015 What about Maven? It allows one to manage Java libraries at a very high level. We use it to build OpenNMS. What about Maven? It allows one to manage Java libraries at a very high level. We use it to build OpenNMS.

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